Tartışma:Zazaca: Revizyonlar arasındaki fark
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:''Zazaca ve Kürtçe: Ergatif-absolutive hali vardir. Bütün Iranî dillerde, hatta bütün Hint-avrupa dillerde yokdur.'' demişsin. İngilizce Vikipediye göre Hint-Avrupa dillerinden Hintçede ve Urducada da ergatif-absolutif hâli bulunuyor. --[[Kullanıcı:Nɯ ʞoʎ ǝsɯıʞ|Nɯ ʞoʎ ǝsɯıʞ]] ([[Kullanıcı mesaj:Nɯ ʞoʎ ǝsɯıʞ|mesaj]]) 12:03, 30 Nisan 2013 (UTC)
:: bak burada ne yaziyor "Split ergativity is shown by languages that have a partly ergative behaviour, but employ another syntax or morphology—usually accusative—in some contexts. In fact, most of the so-called ergative languages are not pure but split-ergative." [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_ergativity], ve Kürtce ve Zazacanin oldugu ergativite'de o dedigin diller yok [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergative-absolutive_language] anladinmi? --[[Kullanıcı:Alsace38|Alsace38]] ([[Kullanıcı mesaj:Alsace38|mesaj]]) 16:58, 1 Mayıs 2013 (UTC)
İngilizce vikide Ergative–absolutive language maddesinde Split ergativity diye bir alt başlık var:
<p>The term ergative–absolutive is considered unsatisfactory by some, since there are very few languages without any patterns that exhibit nominative–accusative alignment. Instead they posit that one should only speak of ergative–absolutive systems, which languages employ to different degrees.
<p>Many languages classified as ergative in fact show split ergativity, whereby syntactic and/or morphological ergative patterns are conditioned by the grammatical context, typically person or the tense/aspect of the verb. Basque is unusual in having an almost fully ergative system.
<p>In Urdu and Hindi, the ergative case is marked on agents in the preterite and perfect tenses for transitive and ditransitive verbs, while in other situations agents appear in the nominative case.
<br> laṛkā kitāb kharīdtā hai
<br> boy-NOMINATIVE-MASCULINE book-NOMINATIVE-FEMININE buy-IMPERFECT-MASCULINE be-PRESENT ¹
<br> "The boy buys a book."
<p> laṛke ne kitāb kharīdī
<br> boy-ERGATIVE-MASCULINE book-NOMINATIVE-FEMININE buy-PERFECT-FEMININE ¹
<br> "The boy bought a book."
<p> (¹) The grammatical analysis has been simplified to show the features relevant to the example.
<p> Açıklayıcı oldu mu? --[[Kullanıcı:Nɯ ʞoʎ ǝsɯıʞ|Nɯ ʞoʎ ǝsɯıʞ]] ([[Kullanıcı mesaj:Nɯ ʞoʎ ǝsɯıʞ|mesaj]]) 00:09, 2 Mayıs 2013 (UTC)
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